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Pricing Model Recommendations

Current Problem Analysis

Current Model: €1 Fixed Fee Per Order

  • Revenue: €1.00 per order (regardless of ticket price)
  • Stripe Costs: 1.15% + €0.25 per transaction
  • Result: Losing money on higher-priced tickets

Financial Impact Examples

Ticket Price Current Revenue Stripe Fees Net Profit/Loss
€20 €1.00 €0.48 +€0.52
€50 €1.00 €0.83 +€0.17 ⚠️
€100 €1.00 €1.40 -€0.40
€200 €1.00 €2.55 -€1.55

Critical Issue: We lose money on any ticket above €65 (€1.00 - (€65 × 1.15% + €0.25) = -€0.00)

Platform Fee = 3-5% of ticket price

Advantages:

  • Always profitable regardless of ticket price
  • Scales naturally with event value
  • Simple for promoters to understand
  • Industry standard approach

Financial Impact:

Ticket Price 3.5% Fee Stripe Costs Net Profit
€20 €0.70 €0.48 €0.22
€50 €1.75 €0.83 €0.92
€100 €3.50 €1.40 €2.10
€200 €7.00 €2.55 €4.45

Model 2: Hybrid Model (Best)

Platform Fee = €1.50 + 2% of ticket price

Advantages:

  • Higher base fee covers Stripe fixed costs
  • Percentage component scales with value
  • Better margins on low-priced tickets
  • Predictable minimum revenue per transaction

Financial Impact:

Ticket Price Hybrid Fee Stripe Costs Net Profit
€20 €1.90 €0.48 €1.42
€50 €2.50 €0.83 €1.67
€100 €3.50 €1.40 €2.10
€200 €5.50 €2.55 €2.95

Model 3: Tiered Flat Fees

€0-25:   €1.50 fee
€26-75:  €2.50 fee
€76-150: €3.50 fee
€151+:   €5.00 fee

Advantages:

  • Predictable fees for promoters
  • Simple pricing tiers
  • Better than current model

Disadvantages:

  • Less scalable than percentage
  • Requires tier management

Industry Benchmarks

Platform Fee Structure Effective Rate (€50 ticket)
Eventbrite 3.7% + €0.59 €2.44
Universe 2.5% + €0.49 €1.74
Ticketfly 4% + €0.99 €2.99
Recommended 3.5% €1.75

Implementation Strategy

Phase 1: Immediate Implementation (Week 1-2)

  1. Switch to 3.5% percentage model for new events
  2. Grandfathering: Existing published events keep €1 pricing
  3. Communication: Notify promoters 1 week before change
  4. Update pricing display on event creation and checkout pages

Phase 2: Optimization (Month 2-3)

  1. A/B Test different rates: 3%, 3.5%, 4%
  2. Monitor metrics:
    • Promoter signup rate
    • Event creation volume
    • Revenue per transaction
    • Customer complaints
  3. Adjust based on data

Phase 3: Premium Tiers (Month 4-6)

  1. Volume discounts for high-performing promoters:
    • Standard: 3.5%
    • Bronze (€5K+ monthly): 3%
    • Silver (€15K+ monthly): 2.5%
    • Gold (€50K+ monthly): 2%
  2. Annual contracts with reduced rates
  3. White-label options for enterprise clients

Revenue Projections

Current State (€1 fixed)

  • Average ticket price: €35
  • Monthly orders: 1,000
  • Monthly revenue: €1,000
  • Monthly Stripe costs: €628
  • Net monthly profit: €372

With 3.5% Model

  • Monthly revenue: €1,225 (3.5% × €35 × 1,000)
  • Monthly Stripe costs: €628
  • Net monthly profit: €597 (+60% increase)

With Growth (3.5% model + 20% more events)

  • Monthly orders: 1,200 (20% growth from competitive pricing)
  • Monthly revenue: €1,470
  • Net monthly profit: €842 (+126% increase)

Technical Implementation

Database Changes

# Add to events table
add_column :events, :commission_rate, :decimal, precision: 5, scale: 4, default: 0.035

# Add to users table (for premium tiers)
add_column :users, :commission_tier, :string, default: 'standard'

Fee Calculation Logic

class Order < ApplicationRecord
  def calculate_platform_fee
    event = self.event
    commission_rate = event.commission_rate || 0.035
    base_amount = total_amount_cents / 100.0
    (base_amount * commission_rate * 100).to_i # return in cents
  end
  
  def platform_fee_euros
    calculate_platform_fee / 100.0
  end
end

Promoter Dashboard Updates

  • Show fee breakdown on event creation
  • Display projected fees during ticket setup
  • Add revenue vs. fees analytics
  • Export fee reports for tax purposes

Communication Plan

Email to Existing Promoters

Subject: "Important Pricing Update - New Fair Fee Structure"

Key Points:

  • Current model loses money on higher-priced tickets
  • New model ensures platform sustainability
  • Better features and support with improved revenue
  • Existing events unchanged, new events only
  • Competitive with industry standards

Website Updates

  • Update pricing page with clear fee calculator
  • Add FAQ about fee structure
  • Transparency about what fees cover (development, support, payment processing)

Risk Mitigation

Potential Issues

  1. Promoter backlash: Higher fees on expensive tickets
  2. Competitor advantage: Other platforms with lower fees
  3. Reduced event creation: Promoters may create fewer events

Mitigation Strategies

  1. Value communication: Emphasize platform improvements and reliability
  2. Competitive analysis: Position as "fair and sustainable" vs. competitors
  3. Volume incentives: Quick path to reduced rates for active promoters
  4. Feature rollout: Launch new promoter features alongside pricing change

Success Metrics

Financial KPIs

  • Monthly recurring revenue growth
  • Average revenue per transaction
  • Profit margin improvement
  • Customer acquisition cost vs. lifetime value

Product KPIs

  • Promoter retention rate
  • New event creation volume
  • Average ticket prices
  • Customer satisfaction scores

Conclusion

The current €1 fixed fee model is financially unsustainable and actually costs us money on higher-value transactions. Moving to a 3.5% commission model will:

  1. Ensure profitability at all ticket price levels
  2. Align with industry standards for competitiveness
  3. Scale revenue naturally with platform growth
  4. Fund platform improvements and better promoter tools

Recommendation: Implement 3.5% commission model immediately, with grandfathering for existing events and a clear communication plan to promoters.

Fee Collection Method: Industry Standard

Current Approach vs Industry Standard

Current Model (Not Recommended):

Customer pays: €50 + €1 fee = €51
Promoter receives: €50
Platform keeps: €1

Industry Standard (Recommended):

Customer pays: €50 (clean price)
Platform keeps: €1.75 (3.5% of €50)
Promoter receives: €48.25

How Major Platforms Handle Fees

Eventbrite:

  • Promoter sets: €50 ticket
  • Customer pays: €50
  • Eventbrite keeps: €1.85 (3.7%)
  • Promoter receives: €48.15

Ticketmaster:

  • Promoter sets: €50 ticket
  • Customer pays: €50
  • Ticketmaster keeps: €5-7.50 (10-15%)
  • Promoter receives: €42.50-45

Universe (by Ticketmaster):

  • Promoter sets: €50 ticket
  • Customer pays: €50
  • Universe keeps: €1.74 (2.5% + €0.49)
  • Promoter receives: €48.26

Why Deducting from Payout is Better

1. Customer Experience

  • Price transparency: Customer sees exactly what they expect to pay
  • No surprise fees: Reduces cart abandonment
  • Competitive pricing: Easier to compare with other events

2. Promoter Benefits

  • Marketing simplicity: Can advertise clean prices
  • Psychological pricing: €50 sounds better than €51.75
  • Competitive advantage: Not adding extra fees to customer

3. Platform Benefits

  • Higher conversion rates: No fee-shock at checkout
  • Better promoter adoption: Easier to sell to event organizers
  • Industry standard: Follows established practices

Psychological Impact

Adding Fees to Customer (Current):

  • Customer thinks: "€50 ticket... oh wait, €51.75 total" 😤
  • Cart abandonment risk

Deducting from Payout (Recommended):

  • Customer thinks: "€50 ticket, €50 total" 😊
  • Smooth purchase experience

Promoter Dashboard Display

Ticket Price: €50.00
Platform Fee (3.5%): -€1.75
Your Earnings per Ticket: €48.25

Communication to Promoters

Before: "Platform charges €1 per order to customers" After: "Set your desired revenue per ticket, we handle the rest"

Example:

  • Promoter wants €48.25 net per ticket
  • They should set ticket price at €50
  • Customer pays €50, promoter gets €48.25
  • Clean, simple, industry standard

Competitive Analysis

Main Competitor: €1 Flat Fee

Our main competitor charges a simple €1 flat fee per order. Here's how our models compare:

Hybrid Model vs Competitor Analysis

Hybrid Model: €1.50 + 2% of ticket price
Competitor: €1.00 flat fee

Ticket Price Competitor Fee Hybrid Fee Difference Competitive Position
€10 €1.00 €1.70 +€0.70 More expensive
€25 €1.00 €2.00 +€1.00 More expensive
€50 €1.00 €2.50 +€1.50 More expensive
€75 €1.00 €3.00 +€2.00 Break-even point
€100 €1.00 €3.50 +€2.50 Much more expensive

Alternative Competitive Models

Option 1: Low-End Competitive Model

Platform Fee = €0.50 + 1.5% of ticket price
Ticket Price Competitor Fee Our Fee Difference Position
€10 €1.00 €0.65 -€0.35 Cheaper
€25 €1.00 €0.88 -€0.12 Cheaper
€50 €1.00 €1.25 +€0.25 ⚠️ Slightly higher
€100 €1.00 €2.00 +€1.00 More expensive

Option 2: Modified Hybrid Model

Platform Fee = €0.75 + 2.5% of ticket price
Ticket Price Competitor Fee Our Fee Difference Position
€10 €1.00 €1.00 Equal Competitive
€25 €1.00 €1.38 +€0.38 ⚠️ Slightly higher
€40 €1.00 €1.75 +€0.75 Break-even
€75 €1.00 €2.63 +€1.63 Much more expensive

Competitive Strategy Recommendations

1. Value Differentiation Approach

Since we'll be more expensive on higher-priced tickets, focus on premium positioning:

Value Proposition:

  • "We're not the cheapest, we're the most complete"
  • Advanced analytics dashboard
  • Real-time sales tracking
  • Professional promoter tools
  • Superior customer support
  • Platform reliability and sustainability

2. Market Segmentation Strategy

Target Market Positioning:

  • Competitor: Best for small, simple events (€10-30 tickets)
  • Us: Best for professional events (€40+ tickets) with serious promoters

3. Hybrid Competitive Approach

Tiered Offering:

  • Basic Plan: Match competitor at €1 flat fee (limited features)
  • Professional Plan: Hybrid model with premium features
  • Enterprise Plan: Custom pricing with full feature set

4. Volume-Based Competitive Response

Free Tier Strategy:

  • First 3 events per month at competitor's €1 rate
  • Volume discounts for high-activity promoters
  • Loyalty rewards for long-term customers

Marketing Positioning

"Choose Your Business Model" Campaign

For Simple Events (Under €40):

  • "Need basic ticketing? Our competitor works fine"
  • "Pay €1 flat fee for simple events"

For Professional Events (€40+):

  • "Serious about your business? You need serious tools"
  • "Fair percentage-based pricing"
  • "Advanced analytics, marketing tools, priority support"

Brand Positioning Statement

"We're the Shopify of Events - Built for Growth"

This positions us as the premium option for serious promoters while acknowledging the competitor's advantage on small events.

Implementation Recommendation

Given the competitive landscape, we recommend Option 1 (€0.50 + 1.5%):

Advantages:

  • Competitive on low-priced tickets
  • Still profitable at all price points
  • Better positioning against main competitor
  • Appeals to both small and large event organizers

Financial Impact:

  • Lower fees on tickets under €33
  • Competitive fees on tickets €33-66
  • Premium pricing on high-value tickets justified by features